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| Husband: | Walter PAYNE (1833- ) | |
| Wife: | Margaret ELLIOTT (1832-1898) | |
| Marriage | 20 Feb 1889 | Westhampnett Registry office |
| Name: | Walter PAYNE | |
| Sex: | Male | |
| Father: | - | |
| Mother: | - | |
| Birth | 1833 | |
| Name: | Margaret ELLIOTT | |
| Sex: | Female | |
| Father: | Joseph ELLIOTT (1806-1859) | |
| Mother: | Phoebe JOBLING (1810-1855) | |
| Birth | 1832 | Manchester, Lancs |
| Death | 1898 (age 65-66) | |
1. Walter Payne was a widower aged 56 at the time of his marriage to Margaret Sparshott in 1889. His father was David Payne (deceased) who had been an Agricultural labourer. I really can't read Walter's profession.
1. At the time of her marriage she is is living at Chatham Barracks, and her father's name is given as Joseph Elliott
2. In the 1851 census, she is living with her husband George at Chatham Barracks. She gives her age as 19, and her place of birth as Manchester, Lancs.
3. In the 1861 census she is with her husband and two children in St Pancras Street, Chichester. She gives her age as 29 and her place of birth as Manchester, Lancs.
4. In the 1871 census he is at 12 Hanover Terrace, Brighton
George Sparshott 52, Head, Out Pensioner at Chelsea, b.Chichester
Margaret 39, Wife, Laundress, b. Weedon Barracks
Joseph 18, Carpenter, b. Chatham Barracks
5. In the 1881 Census she says that she is aged 49 and born in Weedon, Northants. (This could be either Weedon Bec of Weedon Lois - of these Weedon Bec is significantly larger - both then and now. I have searched the relevant Northampton parish registers of baptisms without success, but I see that both Weedons have some non-conformist registers which I have not checked. The parishes I have searched (all dates inclusive) are : Weeden Lois (1827-1837), Weedon Bec (1828-1837), Daventry (1830-1833), and the following which are all the parishes surrounding Weedon Bec - Flore, Dodford, Newnham, Everdon, Farthingstone, Stowe Nine Churches, Heyford (all 1827-1836). Daventry, Weedon Bec and Flore each have one family of Elliotts, but none with a father named Joseph. There is an Elliott family in Flore who have the 'place' column of the register filled in as Weedon. ] NB. There was a large barracks at Weedon Bec, so maybe it is more likely that her father had been stationed there at some time.
6. We have the problem that in the 1851 and 1861 censuses she says she was born in Manchester. After this she generally syas that she was born in Weedon, Northants. In 1871 she is specific and says Weedon Barracks. So I guess that she really was born at Weedon Barracks but presumably her family came from Manchester - more specifically Bolton-le-Moors where a record of her christening can be found. Was she really taken that far to be christened? Her baptism in Bolton-le-Moors is dated 16/3/1832 and her parents given as Joseph and Phebe Elliott.
5. In 1889, aged 56, she married Walter Payne a widower of the same age in Westhampnett. (So clearly George Sparshott had died before then.) At this time she gives her father's profession as 'Segeant in Army' (although he is, of course, deceased). In the marriage certificate they both give their address as Bottle Lane, Portfield (which is just out of Chichester on the Eastern side). Neither of them could sign their name. Slightly surprisingly there is no trace either of Walter or Margaret Payne in Sussex in the 1901 census. A transcription of the certificate can be seen at www.familychest.co.uk/History/Data/MarPS_01.htm
6. In the 1891 census she is living at Bottle Lane, Portfield, Oving, Sussex.
Walter Payne 64, Ag. Labourer, b. Preson, Sussex
Margaret Payne 62, b. Weedon, Northants
7. The details included for her parents and grandparents are taken from Roy Nelson's family tree on Ancestry.